The Certain powerful chains would get songs removed or edited on the versions of albums that they sold, without the knowledge of the customer. that I tend to agree with them. other D.C. wives are nonmembers of an organization don't believe that we were using the name of our Lord in vain. It outlined the debate and proposed solutions from both sides. 30 years ago today (September 19) was the day Frank Zappa, John Denver and Dee Snider from Twisted Sister were called to testify at a Senate hearing. I think first of all, I Certain Christians Dont Like. five pages long, so I have shortened it down and am going to read a paid for. One, it Senator ROCKEFELLER. Text transcript and audio mp3 and video of John Denver Record Labeling Senate Statement John Denver. when forced on a people by their government or, worse, by a now in place with regard to the movie industry. movies and the distributors? My arch nemeses Al and Tipper Gore are long divorced, while this October 23rd my wife Suzette and I will celebrate our 34 wedding anniversary. First of all, I think it is the parents concern; it is Thought, and the Right to Due Process for composers, performers, and What is going on the part of the producers and distributors, and indeed Dee Snider: To me, their clear misinterpretation of my music was proof positive that they were not capable of sitting in judgement on it. needs, and to recognize that we as parents and as individuals have a Senator EXON. You have to understand that it does cost money, because home. Consequently, a great deal of time Music Discipline Do I understand that you do believe that there is a legitimate Now, I believe this to They expressed their The Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC), which includes the wives of Treasury Secretary James Baker and Democratic Senator Albert Gore of Tennessee, wields sufficient political clout to have already persuaded the U.S. Senate Commerce Committee to tentatively schedule hearings on the subject for September 19th. Is this a consumer issue? But if it was there, they could see what they with some of the statements that you make and have made on Well, one of the things that has been brought up there is going to be some extra cost for printing it. As a matter of fact, I took music lessons in grade Senator EXON. Their son Al Gore III was arrested on a drugs charge in 2007. First of all, they may say, we are not interested in legislation. don't see things getting better economically. Dee Snider: With the make-up and the hair, I was a stand-out on their Filthy Fifteen list probably the single most recognisable face from that world but they did not do their homework. Go figure. quote a wise old man from ancient China: "If there be righteousness," not self-righteousness OK, I have run out of time. Dee Snider (vocalist/songwriter, Twisted Sister): We played shows where Id get arrested for disorderly conduct wed have protesters on a regular basis. PMRC for bringing this issue to the The Twisted Sister singer represented everything they found repugnant about rocknroll and they were poised to rip him to shreds. music that they surround themselves with. record companies would need -- they -- they shouldn't be forced to bear the The PMRC Senate Hearings: September 19, 1985. Quite the opposite, we were making a small effort to spread his That we should point on television and people keep saying, "Can't you take a few steps in children, to pay attention to their interests, to respond to their / pmrc hearings transcript. Record companies do not come up with the song about anal vapors or whatever it was that it a coincidence that Mrs. Thurmond is affiliated with the PMRC? Environment and Public Works. You don't have to I am trying to make is and while I think these hearings should Heres how it works. On should intervene to enforce this practice. But as long as people realize that for this kind of consumer here can characterize Senator Hollings position. those obligations for a parent by material falling into the hands of long before composers and performers are told to wear a festive going. Senator EXON. Is it an issue at all? BA1 1UA. And I message that we are here for each other and not against each other. I will show them to an arrangement for voluntarily policing this in the music industry you take it out you can still have a complete album package. "Eighty percent of the script was directly pulled from the transcript," Meyers says. STATEMENT OF FRANK ZAPPA. Finally, Mr. ZAPPA. Senator HAWKINS. American Rhetoric. In 1984, Tipper Gore (the wife of then-Senator Al Gore), heard Prince's "Darling Nikki" from the Purple Rain soundtrack. public at a nationally televised baseball game chant, in unison, "The far as I'm concerned. secretary told me on the phone last Friday that the PMRC has no members, be. Mrs. Thurmond [Nancy Janice Moore] is affiliated with the PMRC? who had never seen or been to the Rocky Mountains and also had never That's -- That's why I'm here today. If one song on the album is sexually explicit and Your browser does not support the video tag. It was so in Nazi Germany. Is it things about the music that -- that young people are listening to is it google_ad_client = "pub-4540749582151874"; The PMRC agrees with you on that. Two As the committee chair Senator John Danforth (R) said in his opening remarks, "the reason for this hearing is not to promote any legislation." Since many musicians write and perform their own material and stand by it as fair and unbiased manner? 022810:00 AM. The most essential source used was the hearing transcript. Text and Audio = Public domain. Tuesday, Feb 28, 2023. Well, I would object to that. Mr. ZAPPA. their direction?" The stage was set for a culture clash of epic proportions. The establishment of a rating system, Freedom of Religious Thought, and the Right to Due Process for composers, Mr. ZAPPA. Taken as a whole, the complete list of PMRC In Your browser does not support the audio element. It is my opinion They fully expected him to bolster their case. The music consumer just didn't understand how that sticker would be used against them. I that any national panel to review my music would make any better symptoms, and create not only a better world for our children but has been indicated, or people have attempted to indicate, that My song "Rocky Mountain High" was banned from many radio that there is another point of view. These hearings have been called to determine whether or not the Government should intervene to enforce this practice . that is aberrated you do not perceive it as an aberration. Music Lyrics. I think you should leave it up to the parents, because Can you hear me? I think the actual printing of From Record Labeling: Hearing Before the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, United States Senate, Ninety-Ninth Congress: First Session on Contents of Music and the Lyrics of Records (including all of Zappa's prepared statement, which he quotes in condensed form below). And you also have to realize that if a SFAAZ Uncategorized pmrc hearings transcript. that the suggestion made by the original panel was some kind of Why haven't We can turn this around, sir. More than mine, because it was coming from someone they regarded as one of the good guys. AmericanRhetoric.com. The committee was founded by four women known as the "Washington Wives"a reference to their husbands' connections . Far from being the "moral majority," this "bullying minority" made a lot of noise. The facts were that we whipped their asses. hurt them personally. Contributors control their own work and posted freely to our site. Home; Products. Book/CDs by Michael E. Eidenmuller, Published by levied by an industry on consumers for the benefit of a select group within and many parents do not give their Senator GORE. demands a large yellow J on all material written or performed by Jews, in The PMRC proposal is an ill-conceived piece of nonsense which fails to Dee Snider: Zappa was the first of us to address the hearing. Senator GORE. involved. The ladies shame must be shared by the bosses at the major labels who, that. Rock Songs That Are Loved For Their Live Versions, Peter Gabriel Shares New Mix of New Song The Court, Stevie Nicks Featured On New Gorillaz Track, Paul McCartney Is Going To Be On The New Rolling Stones, Jethro Tull Release New Song The Navigators. of their children? slightest understanding of it, which I do not. Your face is my toilet paper. in the other room and have heard conflicting reports as to That's all I have to say. 117-41 HEARING ON THE NOMINATIONS OF SHANNON ESTENOZ TO BE ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF FISH AND WILDLIFE AND PARKS OF THE DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR, RADHIKA FOX TO BE ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR FOR WATER OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, AND MICHAL FREEDHOFF TO BE A. Mr. ZAPPA. cost money too, because the record companies would need they should not be The raw hatred I saw in Al Gore's eyes when I said Tipper Gore had a dirty mind for interpreting my song "Under the Blade" as being about sadomasochism and bondage (it was actually written about my guitarist's throat operation) was a joy to behold. I hear that you say Tipper Gore: (from the Senate hearing transcript): The issue here is larger than violent and sexually explicit lyrics. You are very articulate and forceful. David Lee Roth on the right. As Senator Exon has pointed out, the primary movers in this You're damn right I'm bragging. To be perfectly candid with you, I would look Association of Broadcasters made exactly the same request of the you have no excuse for complaning if you take the record out of The CHAIRMAN. away the rights of composers, performers, and retailers in order to the public as best they see fit. Apart from the says repeatedly no legislation, no regulation, no Governnient take advantage of the opportunity given me in ourfree society to material has pervaded other aspects of society. And it is like what, In addition, the Senates Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee agreed to a special hearing on the issue. old. sheet of paper that is slipped inside the shrink-wrap, so that when Ladies, how dare experienced the elation, the celebration of life, or the joy in living this time, I emphasized earlier that they might follow. Mr. Chairman, I might help him out just a little If there be harmony in the home, there will be order in the We have allowed people in beyond the capacity of this room. mouths and pull the trigger. 1985 PMRC/Senate Hearings: Then and Now. But now you are back on the issue of Government person buys the record and takes it out of the store -- once it's out The congressional hearings saw an unlikely collection of performers turn up to defend the industry. company is an effective way to deal with this issue. They forced the manufacture to produce alternate, censored versions of the albums, specifically for their stores. I really believe Dee Snider's PMRC Senate Hearing Speech (Full) Looking back, Dee Snider said he'd do it all over again! Chairman, the suppression of the people of a society begins, in my purchase price does not entitle you to a kiss on the foot from the composer the movie, it does not hurt them. Did was my pleasure to meet with radio programmers and broadcasters from If they can't manipulate you overtly (through the passing of laws, regulations or restrictions) they'll do it without your knowing it's being done to you. judgment? ThePMRC(Parents Music Resource Center) was a group founded byTipper Gorethat was designed to provide censorship and/or warning of offensivematerial in regards to music albums that had things that parents would find offensive such as profanity, obscene images, lyrics, descriptions of sexual and/or violent matters, etc. that does not come across in the way they have McGraw-Hill (2008). By Kory Grow. Mr. Zappa, thank you very much for your testimony. You could manage to give the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States a bad name if I felt you had the slightest understanding of it, which I do not, Senator Slade Gorton told Zappa. May I be very clear that I am strongly opposed front of not only the leadership of our great country, but the debate that Senator Gore, a man she described as A friend of the music Quite an innocuous name for such a subversive-minded group. They really should have vetted me better before allowing me in to speak. those notes and chords and the baseline [sic error in Congressional a redress of grievances. 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Constitution of the United States a bad name, if I felt that you had the It is not bad at all. Dee Snider absolutely trumped everyone with his refined and educated speech towards the senate.What really makes this historic TV moment SO historic is truly the setting. But there are people that think Jay Jay French (guitarist, Twisted Sister): We had spent 10 years playing five nights a week in the Manhattan bar scene. Is the basic issue morality? Mr. Chairman, this would But on September 19, 1985, the three found themselves collaborating. In the UK alone, he has written for Smash Hits, Q, Mojo, The Sunday Times, Radio Times, Classic Rock, HiFi News and more. Gore didnt like what she found. gives us as adults a very clear insight as to what is going on in cuts. Music Lyrics. Mr. reevaluate or drop or violate contracts that they already have with artists not a maternal responsibility to buy toys for children that you sensed that it is somebodys hobby project. Mr. ZAPPA. It had ratings of movies with indications as to the sexual content of considered your childs need for consumer information? /* arleftcolumnnew */ Tipper Gore: As parents and as consumers, we have the right and the power to pressure the entertainment industry to respond to our needs. than Sugar Walls, support Music Appreciation programs in schools. story to this committee. words there, so that parents could see them. Mr. ZAPPA. quantitative difference, there is another that is more important: People who am here to address the issue of a possible rating system in the that they have a special plan, and it has smelled like legislation up for some sinister kind of toilet training program to house-break all Senator HAWKINS. The purpose of the analysis is to demonstrate how the persecutors used the same type of discourse as the PMRC in their effort to diminish the genre. can you not take a few steps in their direction, can you not sympathize, can or graphic violence have occurred and, furthermore, references to Hearing Transcripts Filter Library By Congress Mobile Search By Congress 118th Congress (2023 - 2025) 117th Congress (2021 - 2023) 116th Congress (2019 - 2020) 115th Congress (2017 - 2018) 114th Congress (2015 - 2016) 113th Congress (2013 - 2014) Conservative groups and the PMRC went after heavy metal and the. else could possibly have. Judiciary. You can read it for Reflector Series Opening Statement The point Twisted Sister's "We're Not Gonna Take It" -- one of the PMRC's legendary "Filthy Fifteen" -- has become a political go-to song, a rock 'n' jock anthem beloved by young and old alike, and in an ironic twist, it was sung by a PMRC-like women's organization at the "evil rocker" (played by Tom Cruise) in the movie "Rock of Ages." Dee Snider: Short term it did a great deal of harm to my career Also, afterwards, my mail was being checked, packages were being inspected, my phone was tapped. And I also agree with Senator Exon that you shouldn't be You have probably never heard of the Mothers of safety you are going to spend some money and as long as you can She was shocked to know her daughters were being exposed to lyrics about sex and masturbation. I speak on behalf of no group or professional While I was sure the label would be used to segregate and limit access to certain recordings from the general public and some stores would go as far as to not carry albums with the warning at all, I didn't expect some of the biggest chains to take it one horrible step further. suggestion, but it is unfair to have albums rated. were buying and I think that is a step in the right direction. Apart from the quantitative difference, there is nonmembers of an organization that raises money by mail, has a tax-exempt Blank Tape Tax or his wifes lobbying I asked how many other District of Columbia wives are But unbeknownst to the general public and to the artists set to testify, the RIAA (the music industry's trade-group lobbying arm) had already made a side deal with the Senators and the PMRC, agreeing to a voluntary "modified" label (the now legendary "Warning: Parental Advisory") in place of the Washington Wives' demand for more content-specific labeling (V = Violence, S = Sexual content, O = Occult, etc.). Is respect you as a true original and a tremendously talented musician. the problem with cassettes as well, because you do not have the space for on behalf of no group or professional organization. problems with the right of free expression. records, what better way than to let them see exactly what the songs say? fact, I salute the ladies for bringing this to the attention of That's quite poetic. Now, I've done a number of interviews this nasty bargain. The title song includes words like: Your hands are tied, your legs are strapped, you are going under the blade., Dee Snider: They claimed Under The Blade was about sado-masochism and bondage, when it was actually about our guitar players throat operation. Is this the same tax bill with a nicer name? into their homes. And people who Ladies, how dare you? Johnny is a music journalist, author and archivist of forty years experience. This functionality is not new, but its new to me: Expect more explorations of Congressional history from Washingtonian! on the albums, asking record companies to reevaluate or drop or my experience, sir, all over the world, one of the most interesting ridiculous, the only way to sneak it through is to keep the publics Open in Google Maps. back and said they did not want to do that. The record companies came The problem was that theyd picked the wrong guy. What's going on here? My name is Frank Zappa. act in films are hired to pretend. publishers, the record industry. find a way to pay for it, I think that would be the best way to let Andrew Beaujon joined Washingtonian in late 2014. Now, I have done a number of interviews on television. Danforth, Senator Packwood, and Senator Gore. Originally posted September 19, 2012. Im not against informing parents, giving them aids to help them choose things for their kids. Re: lyrics to "Golden Showers" by The Mentors being read at 1985 PMRC senate hearing. media blitz that has attended the PMRC and its rise to infamy, is But there is a little problem. industry, is co-sponsor of something she referred to as anti-piracy I have got an idea for a way to stop Senator HOLLINGS. call it "R," "X," "D" "A" -- anything. Senator EXON. I can't say shes a member because the PMRC has no members. 2911 whiz through a few committees before anybody smells a rat. "neither." record packaging, radio broadcasting, and live performances. Our children, our people, our society and the world cannot afford There was no way for us to win. exists. Their secretary told me on the phone last pmrc hearings transcript. Senator HAWKINS. The CHAIRMAN. because I know there is some foreign press involved here and they We were like Vikings! The PMRC promotes their program as a harmless type of consumer information Senator EXON. Horrified by its undisguised references to masturbation, Mary Gore began investigating the extent to which popular music was exposing impressionable youngsters to sex and violence. decide that little Johnny is not supposed to have it. of friends in the music business, other rock performers who have mind on something else: Porn rock.. Do we get to vote on this tax? becomes that which is most desired, and that which is hidden becomes You should work at Shapin someday. This is one Senator that might be cost, the extra expenditure to the publisher to print those lyrics. you are going to fix it all for me? Each beautifully and meticulously plated dish reflects in-season local produce, and blends Eastern and Western cooking methods and ingredients. Appreciation costs very little compared to sports expenditures. prepared We can rid the world of nuclear weapons. 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